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13 years ago  #981
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Originally posted by hokiefan philly schools borrow 300M to pay bills. why are the rules different, I can't keep opening up credit cards to pay off old credit cards. we spend all this money on schools, why do the kids still suck at learning?

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20121108_Philadelphia_s_school_commission_borrows__300_million_to_pay_its_bills.html

Hold on Partner..with the Philly School shit.......Philly never got the money they asked for the schools.....and whatever money was given was bullshit.....teachers are overworked and underpaid......Philly closed down numerous schools in the black communties; however, the suburbs where not affected...they have all their books, computers, small classroom sizes...plus Philly is one of the largest school systems in the country so they require more money.....children these days suck at school becasue of Bush dumb ass No Child Left Behind act....where kids pass for just showing up and dont learn shit so that when they graduate high school all they have to look forward is to "street life" or join the military so they can be shipped to fight unecssary wars....Philly schools were doing fine until Bush pulled the plug..then went into his charter school bag... which is nothing more than a small buisness and not a school.....look at the percentage of kids from charter school compared to regular school that go on to college

Plus if u want to take it a step futher....damn near 75% of teachers in the black communites are white and they dont give a fuck about the black children...they come to work everyday just to pick up a check and they are not trying to push the children to learn they just retreat back to the suburbs and complain how they hate their jobs

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13 years ago  #982
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Originally posted by shawshank 2 points and I gotta run...Pistol,great reply and one of the more civil..can I assume your in the ranks of the public educators and thus anti charter schools??..if so your vote for obama makes sense seeing he promotes charter schools and the public teachers union is anti romney....and dick..george bush sr. was W's dad,not his grandpa..and do you also lambast CEO's like steve jobs and other silicon valley ceos who made millions and got tax exemptions..or just publicl outted republican ceo's?

i know gorge bush sr. was his dad i said w's grandpa should have been castrated then we wouldnt have had either one of them jokes as presidents

13 years ago  #983
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Originally posted by shawshank I agree Pistol..romney can join the club of losing GOP presedential contenders along w/ dole,mccain and others..this is now a rep/dem philosophy thread....theirs hope in the gop future w/ rubio,cruz and your right..we gotta expand the base to minorities and others..when the black community votes 93% against gop (95% in 08) something is wrong...especially when the blac community is in the worst shape since the great depression,and this president has done zero for them...but this ain't about romney anymore..I moved on when ohio fell...edit,by the way,the work,bills,economics wasn't aimed at yourself or worm..2 vocals I expected to hear from

I know you werent directing that towards me know worries here. We've talked before and know we're probably the oldest here on PB. My post on W was just an answer to Hokie. Hell everything else since tuesday was pretty much just a joke from me since Hokie was in his feelings.

I think that the GOP is finally realizing that our nation has changed demographically. You cant say disparaging remarks towards woman when 4 years ago A Woman was a VP Nominee( No matter how unqualified) and another was a potential Democratic Nominee (whom I voted for in the general election). Gays are no longer trapped in the closet. A lot of the foreigners are actually citizens now. And OUR President represents OUR Nation, a mixed man in a mixed nation. You could look at The Presidents Audience on Tuesday and Romney's Audience and clearly see which one represented the Nation. The GOP is looking for a second chance and according to Boehner they are going to work to get it right now because they know they need to save face for 2016! They failed at making him a 1 term President so now they have no choice if they want any shot at 2016!

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13 years ago  #984
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Originally posted by shawshank
Originally posted by Pistol22
Originally posted by shawshank 2 points and I gotta run...Pistol,great reply and one of the more civil..can I assume your in the ranks of the public educators and thus anti charter schools??..if so your vote for obama makes sense seeing he promotes charter schools and the public teachers union is anti romney....and dick..george bush sr. was W's dad,not his grandpa..and do you also lambast CEO's like steve jobs and other silicon valley ceos who made millions and got tax exemptions..or just publicl outted republican ceo's?

Nothing personal against Republicans, I just feel there is no way in hell millionaires should be paying less taxes than the poor or working class (middle)

they pay more then their fair share..opposed to those who pay zero but drain money outta the government..but i assume you mean mitt..i know i don't need to explain this to you,but some might not understand..so i will..mitt gets taxed at a capital gain tax rate because his income is derived from investments...remember when he was ceo of olypics and as governor he donated his salaries..he worked for free..but back to capital gains...when you draw a paycheck,you or me or mitt,we get taxed accordingly..me and you may blow it or pay bills..mitt invested it..now if his investments luckily made a profit and he sells,he gets taxed at a capital gain rate....not the rate we all got taxed at as regular income..that rate is higher..so do you think it's fair that he should be taxed at the high rate twice....personally,i feel he should be taxed NOTHING on his investments..what if he lost it all..........but their r 2 tax rates...he's taxed differently and lower but it's because his earning have already been taxed once....he's paying tax TWICE..hope this helps some.

Im not a millionaire so i dont have the luxury of only being taxed on my interest(which is not being taxed on federal income which makes him part of the same 47% he talked about). But every time I make my company a profit every month I get taxed twice. And according to his on tax return he showed his capital gain rate was taxed at about the same as mine but I didnt get paid anywhere near what he claimed in interest alone. Who is that fair to? Most mill/billionaires who arent greedy want to be taxed higher and many have even vowed to give away most of their wealth before they die instead of afterwards.

Social Security is only taxed up to $110,000 in yearly income. An extra 1% of taxes on people making $200k a year alone would keep Social Security sustainable for a long time.

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13 years ago  #985
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Originally posted by hokiefan
Originally posted by angrymidget The thing nobody realizes is we were fucked either way. Neither candidate had a viable plan to stop spending NOW. All we heard about here "10 year" plans, guess what? 10 more years of deficit spending and we're completely fucked. Neither candidate understands that a strong dollar is the most important thing - less debt = strong dollar. Clinton had us on the right path there. We need a president who isn't afraid to make tough decisions in order to pay down the deficit, including taxation & reviewing/removing entitlement programs. I would even argue that we need to change the way we do taxes, and move to a consumption based tax system, so that we all pay based on what we spend rather than what we earn.

Well one thing is for sure, we're thoroughly fucked over right now. Obama is going to fleece the job creators and run ip the debt. You're right a 10 year plan isn't going to cut it, we need a 1 year plan but we wont get it because all of Obama's supportors are looking to get paid again. I am for a flat consumption tax 100000%

How are all of Obama's supporters looking to get paid AGAIN exactly Hokie? How was I paid from the 2008 election? Did I receive an Obama vote check? Was there a secret Negro fund check I was supposed to receive? Because I didnt get that check? Or do you mean Welfare, SSI, Unemployment, Health care, etc...? Because we all pay into that! And so NO ONE who supported Romney Benefits from these "HANDOUTS"? No Romney supporters receive VA benefits or any form of subsidized housing or welfare or unemployment?Have you ever been in a situation were you had to receive unemployment? Do you think you can live comfortably where you do off of $600 dollars a month? I couldnt pay my bills let alone my rent! If me or you were to lose our jobs today what would you do? I would file for unemployment immediately and start looking for a job but I would have a $300 check within 2 weeks so I can eat! I like to eat!

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13 years ago  #986
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Now one thing before I head off for the night and this is very interesting! When we discussed earlier about race and elections and Republicans argued how it wasnt racial. Peep this graphic and tell me it isnt!!

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13 years ago  #987
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couple points/questions...1st Pistol,i appreciate your feedback/opinion on education system,and in my view problem..since i feel your on the inside a couple questions..in the urban area by me,most parents clamor for their kids to get into charter schools,their 1st choice is actually a school choice program whereas they can send there kids to suburban schools,albeit the suburban school then gets the per pupil funding..so in my opinion it seems charter schools out perform public schools,granted they are for profit and not strapped with outlandish union requirements...now the white teachers who flee to suburbs..i wish the schools to renogotiate contracts and require residency requirements for all employees..if your good enough to take the districts money you should be good enough to live within the district..that would solve that problem..bad teachers who don't give a fuck...shit can them..we all hear the horror stories of rooms full of teachers who can't teach yet still draw a check.....enact benchmarks that teachers must meet or pay for performance type standards....my example..i pay close to 10k per year in re tax....over 60% of my towns budget is for schools (and we have zero business tax base)...yet my school spends a fraction per student (8k vs. 15k) that some urban schools spend....and we just built a new high school,yet we get reimbursed only 20% of the cost,yet when the urban city builds a new high school,they get reimbursed 85% from state...so suburbs spend less,pay alot more,yet produce a better product....how so?? DICK..u mean the same bush sr. that had the highest approval rating of ANY president ever..92% at 1 point of his presedency.....thats 92% of Americans,not just repubs....higher then reagan,kennedy,clinton ever saw.........Worm...i agree 100%...i say tax all income with no cap for social security..that would ease the drain,and also look at payouts and age standards (i'm not self serving)..the age limit now is antiqueted..hasn't been lifted since reagan...maybe 62 is to young,raise it to 64...people are living longer,adapt...hated to drag on,just wanted to address posters points from overnite.

13 years ago  #988
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worm,how bout this guy..young,hispanic..seems ok to me

13 years ago  #989
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/15/Surprise-Jobless-Claims-Up-Over-75000

jobless claims rise, led by Ohio and PA. This president just strung this country along, everyone knew the jobless and unemployment numbers were bogus. He was all "look how great things are improving" during the last 2 months, and now we are back where we were. What a fucking joke. Now the middle east is blowing up and he's got his intelligence team fucking around with a bunch of broads unloading classified information with them.

But don't pay attention to all that, all is good and we got plenty of hope and change on the way.

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GET OBAMA DICK OUT YOUR MOUTH DAMN THATS MICHELLE JOB

 

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