c'mon worm,ik you have somewhat of a clue..social security was never designed as someones sole retirement savings plan,unfortubately some and maybe yourself see it as that....if you"ve worked "your whole life" and are only relying on ss income then that a problem on your part..if you think i'm working till 62-65 or 67 then thats just crazy..save,401ks,ira's or a multitude of other retirement plans are avaible to 100% of the country,put in a little or put in alot,and before you blow up and say most people have nothing to put in,look around,saving for retirement is hard and takes sacrafice..even the little things like a pack of smokes or a coffee at dd....now this is off thread topic,but i feel sorry for the hard working folks that rely solely on ss.....i'll be "relaxing" at 55...because i sacrificed and planned accordingly.

American life expectancy is avg. 77 yrs old (less for men more for woman) So we should only be able to enjoy retirement for 9 yrs? I worked all my life to relax for 9 yrs?

c'mon worm,ik you have somewhat of a clue..social security was never designed as someones sole retirement savings plan,unfortubately some and maybe yourself see it as that....if you"ve worked "your whole life" and are only relying on ss income then that a problem on your part..if you think i'm working till 62-65 or 67 then thats just crazy..save,401ks,ira's or a multitude of other retirement plans are avaible to 100% of the country,put in a little or put in alot,and before you blow up and say most people have nothing to put in,look around,saving for retirement is hard and takes sacrafice..even the little things like a pack of smokes or a coffee at dd....now this is off thread topic,but i feel sorry for the hard working folks that rely solely on ss.....i'll be "relaxing" at 55...because i sacrificed and planned accordingly.

American life expectancy is avg. 77 yrs old (less for men more for woman) So we should only be able to enjoy retirement for 9 yrs? I worked all my life to relax for 9 yrs?

American life expectancy is avg. 77 yrs old (less for men more for woman) So we should only be able to enjoy retirement for 9 yrs? I worked all my life to relax for 9 yrs?

nah man he gonna spend spend spend and live up the life now, then get to 62 and retire and then bitch about how he isn't getting enough from SS to survive and how he paid into the system and now he's not getting his fair share.

edit: this is all assuming social security is still around by then, you know they have that lockbox and all.

c'mon worm,ik you have somewhat of a clue..social security was never designed as someones sole retirement savings plan,unfortubately some and maybe yourself see it as that....if you"ve worked "your whole life" and are only relying on ss income then that a problem on your part..if you think i'm working till 62-65 or 67 then thats just crazy..save,401ks,ira's or a multitude of other retirement plans are avaible to 100% of the country,put in a little or put in alot,and before you blow up and say most people have nothing to put in,look around,saving for retirement is hard and takes sacrafice..even the little things like a pack of smokes or a coffee at dd....now this is off thread topic,but i feel sorry for the hard working folks that rely solely on ss.....i'll be "relaxing" at 55...because i sacrificed and planned accordingly.

c'mon worm,ik you have somewhat of a clue..social security was never designed as someones sole retirement savings plan,unfortubately some and maybe yourself see it as that....if you"ve worked "your whole life" and are only relying on ss income then that a problem on your part..if you think i'm working till 62-65 or 67 then thats just crazy..save,401ks,ira's or a multitude of other retirement plans are avaible to 100% of the country,put in a little or put in alot,and before you blow up and say most people have nothing to put in,look around,saving for retirement is hard and takes sacrafice..even the little things like a pack of smokes or a coffee at dd....now this is off thread topic,but i feel sorry for the hard working folks that rely solely on ss.....i'll be "relaxing" at 55...because i sacrificed and planned accordingly.

Im not just talking about the money from SS im talking about the retirement age and the benefits that come with it. Like moving to a retirement community or insurance advantages etc. However there are some who cant afford to that extra money out of their checks for 401ks, and ira's or cd's. Some people have to prepare accordingly just to make sure that everyone in the house eats everyday. See the problem is you(conservatives) think everyone is or should be just like you no matter what. And that people who need support are just living it up like fat cats off of our tax dollars. Some times it takes stepping outside of your bubble to get a different perspective.

Take a few minutes and give this show a little of your time. This is just one out of the 3 seasons its been on. its an eye opener for sure.

nah man he gonna spend spend spend and live up the life now, then get to 62 and retire and then bitch about how he isn't getting enough from SS to survive and how he paid into the system and now he's not getting his fair share.

edit: this is all assuming social security is still around by then, you know they have that lockbox and all.

definitely not doubting that there isn't good people out there, that legitimately need help. also not doubting that shit is tough for a lot of people. i think we agree that we both dislike the folks who freeload off the system. I work daily with folks who are working hard to get by, doing whatever they can do make ends meet for their family. but that's just the point, they are working hard to make ends meet and provide for their family. my only beef is with those not working hard, waiting in line for their next check and not wanting to go find work.

i am for the establishment of eligibility requirements to receive federal aid, to reign in the abuse and waste. for example, food stamps should be non-transferable, and only permitted on the same items as programs like WIC, basic healthy staples. drug screening should be there too, u want federal money, clean up your act. (or is that too hard? too much to ask?)

See thats my whole point nobody is for freeloaders (except freeloaders). When I speak of people I dont speak of any of that shit. Just hard working people. WIC is a perfect example of a great benefit. It can only be used on healthy stuff for babies and toddlers. I agree drug screening should be there but that doesnt mean I dont agree assistance should be denied. I think the children may need to be removed in some cases and whom ever is taking care of them should get the assistance. My first thought is on the kids all the kids in the world should be able to eat.