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10 years ago  #1,111
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Originally posted by TONYMONGUIDOJr Just noticed your other response as well. Stop sipping the Kool-Aid from Obama's tip with the "Non-Violent" bullshit. All you have to do is put on an episode of Drugs Inc. and you will see how "Non-Violent" the drug trafficking, manufacturing, and street hustlin really is. You think all the gang related murders in Chicago recently have been because of political views or because they lost in draft kings over the weekend?

--So the source of your argument is a reality tv show? Seems legit. Anyways, Strawman argument. A non-violent drug offender meaning someone with a minor record or "no prior criminal history whose offense did not involve sophisticated criminal activity and whose offense behavior was not violent." 40,000 people in jail for just possessing or distributing a controlled substance, half of them of distribution of marijuana when marijuana is legal in a few states but you keep watching your reality tv, bro. If more states follow suit with legalization then we will need to release those non violent offenders.

Originally posted by TONYMONGUIDOJr In regards to your lecture in due process, if you noticed my parenthesis you would have seen I agree there have been some shootings where the cop should have been prosecuted. Most recently in Chicago is a good example as well as in SC. Whether unarmed or not, every high profile case that's been televised has one thing in common. They were all shot while in the process of committing a crime. Skin color has nothing to do with it, if it were a hillbilly running around the streets with a knife all hopped up on PCP he should understand that he may get shot by police if he doesn't listen. I have no sympathy for any dumbass piece of shit regardless of race.

--You're conflating people suspected of a crime with people arrested, charged and convicted of a crime. . Good thing due process has nothing to do with the court of public opinion. If they are found guilty in a court of law, fine, let the rot away in a cell. Cops aren't paid to be judge, jury and executioner. Seems like you're willing to throw the Constitution out the window, never forget who you are or what you represent.

Originally posted by TONYMONGUIDOJr I seen on the news the other day there were reporters from MSNBC questioning the actions of cops after they shot a man for not complying after he was shooting his gun in the air and pointing it at people. They were complaining that they fired too many rounds at the guy. One woman even suggested the cops should have tried to taze the guy who had been firing off a gun. Is that what you mean by innocent until proven guilty?

--This was a typical right-wing response. Blame Obama, blame the liberal media, use propaganda for the sake of your argument. I've made my point. Your opinion was appreciated. Thanks.

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10 years ago  #1,112
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No need to quote your responses,although well thought out,are they not the "typical" left wing hyperbole??..so you want to empty out the jails of convicted criminals?you lambasted the police for shooting choirboys,you proclaim the US the great Satan in the fight against terrorism for all the harm we've done....almost surprised you were able to complete 4 years in the military...almost as bad as Hilary call ing the illegal immigrants "law abiding"..whatever the crime,if your convicted theirs a warm cell waiting for you...although I appreciate your liberal ideology and thinking,it's a little wacked out...

10 years ago  #1,113
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Back on point:

10 years ago  #1,114
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I didn't blame anyone for that dumbass piece of shit who got shot by the cops. I was merely pointing out how flawed your "cops are gunning down innocent unarmed civilians at a staggering rate" theory is. Liberals love to push their anti-cop agenda to overshadow any story that may convey the truth about the direction this country is headed and also to give you liberals something to be distracted by. All while your leading candidate has been proven to be a liar time and time again (not they care either way). Also reality TV was not my source for the first argument, it was an example. My source is the statistical data showing all of the drug related murders annually. If your wanting to release individuals who were low level dealers who are only serving 6mths-1yr maybe. But the large majority of them had other charges involved that were more severe and take a plea of lessor charge.

From the sound of your arguments I'm thinking you're leaning towards #FeelTheBurn Bernie Sanders? Am I close? You can't be a Clinton supporter, they way you presented your arguments (however distorted I fell they are) shows at least a moderate to high level of intelligence. Which is way to high to actually believe she is qualified to be president.

9 years ago  #1,115
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glad this shit show of a presidency is over with... MAGA. I need someone to send me some eds and waters it's been a minute since I've been on here.

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Originally posted by rjp123

OBAMA WILL TAX THIS TOO.

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Originally posted by shawshank But nick,my point is the muslam folks are committing these acts in and for the name of their religion...which school shooter has shot up a school in the name of Christianity::..are they nut jobs??of course they are..maybe stop nut jobs from entering the country..you can cite a few obvious "Christianity" shootings (i.e. abortion clinics)..but again,open the paper ANY day and you will see some Islamic extremeist killing infidels in the name of Islam and because that's what the Koran tells them to do..Waco or even Jonestown were cult like mass murders,not sure either of those two leaders espoused Christianity.

lol this guy is so stupid

u look at terrorism in a vacuum and conveniently forget all the circumstances surrounding it. so for example, america invades iraq under false pretenses, hundreds of thousands dead, people tortured, displaced, etc. then terrorist attack "x", "y", and "z" happen, and you ignore the war, torture, and displacement, and pretend the terrorist attacks happened just randomly because "islam told them to"

it's also easy to say all terrorists are muslims when your classification of terrorism is something that only muslims can do (circular reasoning). its funny when you turn the news on and some kind of shooting happens and the pundits are saying "we're unsure if this is terrorism related or a lone shooter", in other words "we're unsure if this was a muslim or someone else".

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9 years ago  #1,118
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Paris,Spain,Sweden,Orlando,San Bernadino..and that's all without googling..all attacks by Muslim extremists SINCE I posted that nearly 3 years ago...and I'm sure their are hundreds if not thousands more,rape,murder etc..so take your "Iraqi war" exscuse and shove it up your ass..heres a novel idea,why not have your religion and their leaders condemn such atrocities and start turning these bastards in...when was the last time you saw a mosque leader turn in members whom were blatantly extremist or planning jihad??

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Originally posted by shawshank Paris,Spain,Sweden,Orlando,San Bernadino..and that's all without googling..all attacks by Muslim extremists SINCE I posted that nearly 3 years ago...and I'm sure their are hundreds if not thousands more,rape,murder etc..so take your "Iraqi war" exscuse and shove it up your ass..heres a novel idea,why not have your religion and their leaders condemn such atrocities and start turning these bastards in...when was the last time you saw a mosque leader turn in members whom were blatantly extremist or planning jihad??

A christian leader couldn't turn in someone like that, it's considered a sacramental crime.

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"Difference is Muslims, or so called "Radical Islamist Terrorits" act on what there religion says. The majority of Christians/Catholics just preach about it and try and tell the person there sinning, or just accept them and think they deserve there own bathrooms."

Don't want to get into a debate but do you not see a HUGE difference in the method used? I mean having a problem with a guy in the women's bathroom is definitely worse than beheading/throwing them off buildings/hanging/murdering them....

 

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