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Originally posted by Howie429 like any president there is gonna be people that are against his way of thinking and i dont think its any different with obama...the thing about his wife being and angry women is because she was giving her opinion to other people that were working in the white house that were on his staff but were not sticking up for him the way she wanted about the health care reform...not because shes black but because she was giving them attitude

i just see him as any other president just corrupt (solyndra millions wasted of tax payer money to people that made contributions to his campaign) and full of empty promises and leading the country the wrong way...having congress blocking him is not an excuss cause obviously they have a different thought process(he had a democrat majority his first 2 years in office and didnt get that much accomplised), and thats what it is there for and just not give the president everything he wants or its a dictatorship then...they need to come to common ground on the issues in order to make progress but he has been almost as stubborn as them with not wanting to compramise...the president is supposed to unite people but he just seems he sometimes try to divide the nation even more than it is

They blocked and procrastinated every thing he did to make it look like he didn't do anything for america. They stalled him out on purpose bro

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Originally posted by KROWNVIC
Originally posted by Howie429 like any president there is gonna be people that are against his way of thinking and i dont think its any different with obama...the thing about his wife being and angry women is because she was giving her opinion to other people that were working in the white house that were on his staff but were not sticking up for him the way she wanted about the health care reform...not because shes black but because she was giving them attitude

i just see him as any other president just corrupt (solyndra millions wasted of tax payer money to people that made contributions to his campaign) and full of empty promises and leading the country the wrong way...having congress blocking him is not an excuss cause obviously they have a different thought process(he had a democrat majority his first 2 years in office and didnt get that much accomplised), and thats what it is there for and just not give the president everything he wants or its a dictatorship then...they need to come to common ground on the issues in order to make progress but he has been almost as stubborn as them with not wanting to compramise...the president is supposed to unite people but he just seems he sometimes try to divide the nation even more than it is

They blocked and procrastinated every thing he did to make it look like he didn't do anything for america. They stalled him out on purpose bro

for what issue are you talking about?...he had 2 years when he could have done what he wanted...he wants to keep running up more debt to pay for everything...it would be a different story if they had the cash now to pay for the things he wants but the republicans are against running up more debt to pay for more

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Originally posted by Howie429 like any president there is gonna be people that are against his way of thinking and i dont think its any different with obama...the thing about his wife being and angry women is because she was giving her opinion to other people that were working in the white house that were on his staff but were not sticking up for him the way she wanted about the health care reform...not because shes black but because she was giving them attitude

i just see him as any other president just corrupt (solyndra millions wasted of tax payer money to people that made contributions to his campaign) and full of empty promises and leading the country the wrong way...having congress blocking him is not an excuss cause obviously they have a different thought process(he had a democrat majority his first 2 years in office and didnt get that much accomplised), and thats what it is there for and just not give the president everything he wants or its a dictatorship then...they need to come to common ground on the issues in order to make progress but he has been almost as stubborn as them with not wanting to compramise...the president is supposed to unite people but he just seems he sometimes try to divide the nation even more than it is

Originally posted by Howie429
Originally posted by KROWNVIC
Originally posted by Howie429 like any president there is gonna be people that are against his way of thinking and i dont think its any different with obama...the thing about his wife being and angry women is because she was giving her opinion to other people that were working in the white house that were on his staff but were not sticking up for him the way she wanted about the health care reform...not because shes black but because she was giving them attitude

i just see him as any other president just corrupt (solyndra millions wasted of tax payer money to people that made contributions to his campaign) and full of empty promises and leading the country the wrong way...having congress blocking him is not an excuss cause obviously they have a different thought process(he had a democrat majority his first 2 years in office and didnt get that much accomplised), and thats what it is there for and just not give the president everything he wants or its a dictatorship then...they need to come to common ground on the issues in order to make progress but he has been almost as stubborn as them with not wanting to compramise...the president is supposed to unite people but he just seems he sometimes try to divide the nation even more than it is

They blocked and procrastinated every thing he did to make it look like he didn't do anything for america. They stalled him out on purpose bro

for what issue are you talking about?...he had 2 years when he could have done what he wanted...he wants to keep running up more debt to pay for everything...it would be a different story if they had the cash now to pay for the things he wants but the republicans are against running up more debt to pay for more

The republicans produced that debt. And refuse to tax the rich who want and ask them to tax them more

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Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by Howie429 like any president there is gonna be people that are against his way of thinking and i dont think its any different with obama...the thing about his wife being and angry women is because she was giving her opinion to other people that were working in the white house that were on his staff but were not sticking up for him the way she wanted about the health care reform...not because shes black but because she was giving them attitude

i just see him as any other president just corrupt (solyndra millions wasted of tax payer money to people that made contributions to his campaign) and full of empty promises and leading the country the wrong way...having congress blocking him is not an excuss cause obviously they have a different thought process(he had a democrat majority his first 2 years in office and didnt get that much accomplised), and thats what it is there for and just not give the president everything he wants or its a dictatorship then...they need to come to common ground on the issues in order to make progress but he has been almost as stubborn as them with not wanting to compramise...the president is supposed to unite people but he just seems he sometimes try to divide the nation even more than it is

Originally posted by Howie429
Originally posted by KROWNVIC
Originally posted by Howie429 like any president there is gonna be people that are against his way of thinking and i dont think its any different with obama...the thing about his wife being and angry women is because she was giving her opinion to other people that were working in the white house that were on his staff but were not sticking up for him the way she wanted about the health care reform...not because shes black but because she was giving them attitude

i just see him as any other president just corrupt (solyndra millions wasted of tax payer money to people that made contributions to his campaign) and full of empty promises and leading the country the wrong way...having congress blocking him is not an excuss cause obviously they have a different thought process(he had a democrat majority his first 2 years in office and didnt get that much accomplised), and thats what it is there for and just not give the president everything he wants or its a dictatorship then...they need to come to common ground on the issues in order to make progress but he has been almost as stubborn as them with not wanting to compramise...the president is supposed to unite people but he just seems he sometimes try to divide the nation even more than it is

They blocked and procrastinated every thing he did to make it look like he didn't do anything for america. They stalled him out on purpose bro

for what issue are you talking about?...he had 2 years when he could have done what he wanted...he wants to keep running up more debt to pay for everything...it would be a different story if they had the cash now to pay for the things he wants but the republicans are against running up more debt to pay for more

The republicans produced that debt. And refuse to tax the rich who want and ask them to tax them more

the top 5% pay over 60% of the taxes...many wealthy americans have said they would not mind paying more in taxes if the government spent the money in a useful way...he has also made many regulations making it harder for business' to operate...and im not a fan of bush either...i said obama is just like other presidents with corruption, broken promises and leading the nation in the wrong direction

but how did the debt come from the republicans...he has made almost as much dept in 3 years as bush did in 8 years...obama is responsible for over 25% of it

Obama's National Debt Impact

Upon Inauguration:

$10,626,877,048,913

As of Jan 24, 2012:

$15,236,236,452,380

In 3.0 yrs Increased:

$4,609,359,403,467

George Bush (8yrs):

$4,899,100,310,609

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500803_162-4486228-500803.html

"On the day President Bush took office, the national debt stood at $5.727 trillion. The latest number from the Treasury Department shows the national debt now stands at more than $9.849 trillion. That's a 71.9 percent increase on Mr. Bush's watch."

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Originally posted by wormdogg10 http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500803_162-4486228-500803.html

"On the day President Bush took office, the national debt stood at $5.727 trillion. The latest number from the Treasury Department shows the national debt now stands at more than $9.849 trillion. That's a 71.9 percent increase on Mr. Bush's watch."

and that is for 8 years of him being in office...the current president has only been in there for 3 years and has made almost as much debt...imagine if he was there for 8 years

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Bush started the war and it all rolled over on him. He did bring the troops home and now you will see a significant decrease in the debt. I like the projects he is doing for starting training programs to get people back to work and taxing out sourcing companies that take money and jobs away from america. The auto industry is back, and a lot of other stuff I seen last night but that's for another convo...when your funding trillions in a wa, its not much you can do to combat the debt crisis. Making the banks be accountable and no more subsidizing will help and we will see change very soon...I like what he said about immagration and allowing the foriegners who get a degree to earn their green card while the bad folks should be the targets

Its been a great discussion with you guys today, good job fellas.

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obama slogan was change...but when he got in office he appointed people that have already been in washington for many years that were part of the problem to begine with...if i became president and was going to change washington i would hire new people with new ideas and get fresh blood in there to actually change things...he is running a billion dollar campaign this year for re election...he has too many people giving him money to keep things from being corrupt...they give him money and he gives them favors like solyndra...republicans and democrates are all responsable for the mess in washington but niether really want change and just leave the majority of americans in a worse off position by wasting tax payer money and running up debt that will only hurt future generations

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Bush has reasons for his debt. New National Security ptocedures and equiptment were made after 9/11 a majority of his spending was incorporated with that as well as Operation Iraqi Freedom. If you compare Howie is right Obama is not as economically wise as others.

 

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