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Grinds Our Gears: PB Edition

13 years ago  #12,261
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13 years ago  #12,262
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Originally posted by KROWNVIC Bush started the war and it all rolled over on him. He did bring the troops home and now you will see a significant decrease in the debt. I like the projects he is doing for starting training programs to get people back to work and taxing out sourcing companies that take money and jobs away from america. The auto industry is back, and a lot of other stuff I seen last night but that's for another convo...when your funding trillions in a wa, its not much you can do to combat the debt crisis. Making the banks be accountable and no more subsidizing will help and we will see change very soon...I like what he said about immagration and allowing the foriegners who get a degree to earn their green card while the bad folks should be the targets

Its been a great discussion with you guys today, good job fellas.

obama has spent billions on a war with libya, and has had problems elsewhere, stirring up problems with iran amoung other countries, i agree with the war after 9-11 after the towers were hit but the war in iraq was a waste of time, money, and lives...during his '08 campaign goldman sachs was hit biggest sorce of cash...he got in and bailed them out, alot of his people that work with him that he appointed have ties to many of the big banks, alot of the stuff said in the state of the union is bs

and he is saying alot of it just to get elected again just more promises that will never happen, training programs were part of his other stimulas packages already

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13 years ago  #12,263
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Originally posted by Zanej Bush has reasons for his debt. New National Security ptocedures and equiptment were made after 9/11 a majority of his spending was incorporated with that as well as Operation Iraqi Freedom. If you compare Howie is right Obama is not as economically wise as others.

seeing i aint American i still dont understand the iraq war what was the point there were no wmd why go there and have soldiers die and spend billions of dollars what was accomplished in my opion nothing was accomplished the usa is leaving irag just seems like another vietnam to me

13 years ago  #12,264
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Originally posted by mike1
Originally posted by Zanej Bush has reasons for his debt. New National Security ptocedures and equiptment were made after 9/11 a majority of his spending was incorporated with that as well as Operation Iraqi Freedom. If you compare Howie is right Obama is not as economically wise as others.

seeing i aint American i still dont understand the iraq war what was the point there were no wmd why go there and have soldiers die and spend billions of dollars what was accomplished in my opion nothing was accomplished the usa is leaving irag just seems like another vietnam to me

they were said to have nuclear weapons, didnt have any, it was to secure parts of the middle east for energy

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13 years ago  #12,265
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Originally posted by Howie429
Originally posted by mike1
Originally posted by Zanej Bush has reasons for his debt. New National Security ptocedures and equiptment were made after 9/11 a majority of his spending was incorporated with that as well as Operation Iraqi Freedom. If you compare Howie is right Obama is not as economically wise as others.

seeing i aint American i still dont understand the iraq war what was the point there were no wmd why go there and have soldiers die and spend billions of dollars what was accomplished in my opion nothing was accomplished the usa is leaving irag just seems like another vietnam to me

they were said to have nuclear weapons, didnt have any, it was to secure parts of the middle east for energy

Bush made that all up. Thats why Colin Powell quit because he supported Bush's lies.

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13 years ago  #12,266
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i dont get it howie if it was for energy canada tried to supply usa with oil and even was going to pay for a pipeline to houston but it got turned down so the usa would rather go to war for oil than except a pipeline across there country dont make sense to me

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Originally posted by mike1 i dont get it howie if it was for energy canada tried to supply usa with oil and even was going to pay for a pipeline to houston but it got turned down so the usa would rather go to war for oil than except a pipeline across there country dont make sense to me

the house and senate are for that but obama does not want to sign it, and making the average american pay about $40 more for each week because the bush tax cuts are included in the bill

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so obama has the power to overrule both the house and senate i didnt no here in canada our pm doesnt have that kind of power to overrule the majority

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Originally posted by Howie429
Originally posted by mike1 i dont get it howie if it was for energy canada tried to supply usa with oil and even was going to pay for a pipeline to houston but it got turned down so the usa would rather go to war for oil than except a pipeline across there country dont make sense to me

the house and senate are for that but obama does not want to sign it

Its not that he wont sign it they have to revamp where the pipeline goes and doesnt destroy too much wildlife and theres safety issues. they can bring it back to the table once they have a better plan

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So the usa would rather canada sell there oil to china cause thats the way we going now china going to pay for a pipeline to the coast i would rather see our oil going to the usa who is an allie rather than china

 

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