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it probaby happens more often than is reported nationally.. Frazier Glenn Cross was on trial in KC not to long ago for shooting jews because "the bible says they are the enemy".. there are good and bad apples in every way to segment the human race.. you cant blame a whole group, unless that group is crazy fucking murderers..lol

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i agree they is bad things in all faiths. And not all Muslims are terrorists. But all Isis are Muslim and they preach about it been a Muslim thing so guess they are getting the publicity they are asking for

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Originally posted by shawshank
Originally posted by nickrox how are they apples and oranges..a dead body is a dead body.. if muslim have to claim terrorists. then chistians have to claim the women that drown their 5 kids cuz "god told me too"

C'mon Nick..how often does that happen(granted once is snuff)...front page news daily lately of some Islamic jihadists killing innocents somewhere...you may read about that type of Christian nut job 1 every year or 2..here's an interesting post,and I'm sure US based mosques are just as bad:http://madworldnews.com/france-raids-mosques/

To be fair, the U.S. military is full of religious nutjobs. They may fight "for the flag", but who knows what's going through their minds when they tear apart families in other countries.

How do you think our armies look to the people being killed overseas? They probably see our politicians preaching about Jesus and shit in Congress and think the same of us.

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Originally posted by Albino i agree they is bad things in all faiths. And not all Muslims are terrorists. But all Isis are Muslim and they preach about it been a Muslim thing so guess they are getting the publicity they are asking for

yes, the crazy people getting their panties in a bunch is letting them win

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Originally posted by shawshank
Originally posted by nickrox how are they apples and oranges..a dead body is a dead body.. if muslim have to claim terrorists. then chistians have to claim the women that drown their 5 kids cuz "god told me too"

C'mon Nick..how often does that happen(granted once is snuff)...front page news daily lately of some Islamic jihadists killing innocents somewhere...you may read about that type of Christian nut job 1 every year or 2..here's an interesting post,and I'm sure US based mosques are just as bad:http://madworldnews.com/france-raids-mosques/

To be fair, the U.S. military is full of religious nutjobs. They may fight "for the flag", but who knows what's going through their minds when they tear apart families in other countries.

How do you think our armies look to the people being killed overseas? They probably see our politicians preaching about Jesus and shit in Congress and think the same of us.

exactly, if we go bat shit crazy on muslims, we are the same as ISIS

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if all the baptists went nuts and started killing people, does that mean all christians are evil? americans are too small minded.. look at this from an outside perspective, christians are judging people, and what does the bible say on who gets to judge?

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Yes,I agree Nick..but your scenerios are not happening,and Obama call Islam a religion of peace??..I see a trend here,do you vvv

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Originally posted by shawshank Yes,I agree Nick..but your scenerios are not happening,and Obama call Islam a religion of peace??..I see a trend here,do you vvv

lol. you are picking only the scenarios where the perps where muslim.. conveniently left off any school shootings, oklahoma city, waco... *facepalm

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But nick,my point is the muslam folks are committing these acts in and for the name of their religion...which school shooter has shot up a school in the name of Christianity::..are they nut jobs??of course they are..maybe stop nut jobs from entering the country..you can cite a few obvious "Christianity" shootings (i.e. abortion clinics)..but again,open the paper ANY day and you will see some Islamic extremeist killing infidels in the name of Islam and because that's what the Koran tells them to do..Waco or even Jonestown were cult like mass murders,not sure either of those two leaders espoused Christianity.

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Originally posted by shawshank But nick,my point is the muslam folks are committing these acts in and for the name of their religion...which school shooter has shot up a school in the name of Christianity::..are they nut jobs??of course they are..maybe stop nut jobs from entering the country..you can cite a few obvious "Christianity" shootings (i.e. abortion clinics)..but again,open the paper ANY day and you will see some Islamic extremeist killing infidels in the name of Islam and because that's what the Koran tells them to do..Waco or even Jonestown were cult like mass murders,not sure either of those two leaders espoused Christianity.

Conservatives have a funny way of demonizing other races and cultures while making excuses for their violent acts. Of the more than hundreds of American deaths from political violence and mass shootings since 9/11, few have come at the hands of Muslim-Americans.

Right-wing extremist groups, white supremacist groups and pro-life Christians are a bigger threat than Muslim in America.
Religion is also a problem here. Remember that the KKK calls themselves a christian organization and they have murdered more Americans than any Muslim group in America. Since the biased media reserves the term "terrorist" for black and brown people and "mentally ill shooter" for white people it's difficult to do a side-by-side comparison.

One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."

Mr Bush, who became a born-again Christian at 40, is one of the most overtly religious leaders to occupy the White House, a fact which brings him much support in middle America.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa

Here's some perspective for you

http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/unworthy-victims-western-wars-have-killed-four-million-muslims-1990-39149394

The role of Western Imperialism in geopolitics is another issue, I served for 4 years in the Navy and somehow we see ourselves as protecting freedoms by bombing the shit out of middle eastern countries, fuck that. WE ARE THE OPPRESSORS. Thats the problem with American Exceptionalism, we have more citizens imprisoned per capita, police shootings kill more civilians than terrorist and we think we can go to other countries, fuck with their governments, bomb their civilians, steal their resources, destabilize the region and walk away all in the name of FREEDOM. It doesn't work like that. We need to ban Americans from Muslim countries and work on fixing our shit first.

As for the Bible vs the Quran,both are pretty violent.

 

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