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Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by Death_Hand_Luke
Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by Zanej
Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by Zanej Difference is one was considered a violent crime and other just fraud. They both were Federal crimes but when you hold someone at gun point or pretend gun point punishment is going to be more. But I don't agree 15 yrs that's harsh

Edit: he will be paroled with good behavior after 2-3 yrs most likely

They both used a finger for their crimes. The difference was one was white and rich the other was black and poor and even turned himself in the next day because he felt bad. The white finger had been doing it forever stealing from thousands of people for 3 BILLION DOLLARS!. The black finger got $100 DOLLARS so he can stay in detox! Fuck out of here with bullshit justifications!

obviously you know nothing of Law dumb ass, I know the reasoning so go suck a dick and GTFO my ass... and enough with the try and keep the black man down ... do i need to change my avatar black so i can fit in seriously.

Obviously baby hitler you know nothing of law and laws in different areas and regions designed specifically to keep black men in jail longer then white men. Heres the biggest example and let me hear you justifiy this one Adolf http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/len-bias-two-decades-of-destruction/

Come on, this isn't the 1950's... your president is black for fucks sake

And gets disrespected more then any other president before him. People want to doubt hes even american has that ever been said to another president. Calling his wife an angry black woman just because shes a black woman. She one of the nicest people I ever met. Congressmen yelling at him during a state of the union address. Hes treated just like the rest of us black men

Seriously? I think there isn't much competition for who got the most disrespect - Bush! He was a true idiot and the world still laughs at him.

No matter what race, creed or sex you are, people will always dig up shit about you and try and put you down if you are in such a public position. Its just when someone mentions the word 'black' everyone gets angry and brings up the race card.

I remember a month or two back there was some HUGE forum battle because someone used the word 'nigger' and you kicked up a huge fuss... the fact that you actually have that word on your profile proves my point.

Edit: Just to be clear... I don't approve of racism in any form but I particularly don't like 'one-sided' racism if people get what I mean. As in when it is acceptable one way but not the other.

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13 years ago  #12,222
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Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by Howie429
Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by Zanej Difference is one was considered a violent crime and other just fraud. They both were Federal crimes but when you hold someone at gun point or pretend gun point punishment is going to be more. But I don't agree 15 yrs that's harsh

Edit: he will be paroled with good behavior after 2-3 yrs most likely

They both used a finger for their crimes. The difference was one was white and rich the other was black and poor and even turned himself in the next day because he felt bad. The white finger had been doing it forever stealing from thousands of people for 3 BILLION DOLLARS!. The black finger got $100 DOLLARS so he can stay in detox! Fuck out of here with bullshit justifications!

its all how its written in the laws not on the color of their skin(only the crack/cocaine is justified being a race issue because crack is mainly located in poor areas of the country often with minorities while cocaine is a higher priced drugs that judges, polititions, lawyers use and get caught with)...he had his hand under his jacket making it look like there was a gun when he got the cash from a teller in the bank, she had no idea if there was a weapon or not and therefore force was used to commit the crime...the other just just commited fraud and never harmed anyone directly by making threats or appearing to have a weapon...pick up your states penal code book and read and it will desriptly explain every crime if your interested

the guy who commited fraud prob had a defense that cost him a few million and the other guy just had someone apointed to him who didnt give a shit about him...you get what you pay for...the guy pleaded guilty which never should have happened cause he should have took a plea deal to go to substance abuse program for a certain time period and then serve a shortened jail sentance

ive been to court plenty of times...if you can get a good defense lawyer then you can beat the case cause most cops are idiots and dont know how to properly follow procedures, fill out paper work and get lab and chemical results back in time for the trial and you can get it all dropped

C'mon howie the man stole $100 dollars and turned his self in and get sentenced to 15 years in jail. You ever been late on your mortgage and been threatened by the mortgage company so yeah he did threaten people and DIRECTLY STOLE their money and I am pretty sure most of them lost not only their hard earned money but their homes as well and Im quite sure he didnt turn his self in or apologize. And dont get it twisted I know the law and gun laws used while commiting a crime but c'mon man that shit was an abuse of power.

the guy who stole a billion must have had a defense team that cost him alot of cash...they got him a plea deal most likely for cooperating with the authorities with how things went down...the other guy prob couldnt afford his own lawyer if he stole $100 and got someone publicly provided to him who didnt really care about his client and didnt get him a plea deal since he pleaded guilty...its more of a rich/poor thing than a white/black issue

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Guy who stole a billion= E felony Guy who stole $100= C felony with the laws if they both lived in New York State

S 190.65 Scheme to defraud in the first degree.

1. A person is guilty of a scheme to defraud in the first degree when

he: (a) engages in a scheme constituting a systematic ongoing course of

conduct with intent to defraud ten or more persons or to obtain property

from ten or more persons by false or fraudulent pretenses,

representations or promises, and so obtains property from one or more of

such persons; or (b) engages in a scheme constituting a systematic

ongoing course of conduct with intent to defraud more than one person or

to obtain property from more than one person by false or fraudulent

pretenses, representations or promises, and so obtains property with a

value in excess of one thousand dollars from one or more such persons.

2. In any prosecution under this section, it shall be necessary to

prove the identity of at least one person from whom the defendant so

obtained property, but it shall not be necessary to prove the identity

of any other intended victim.

Scheme to defraud in the first degree is a class E felony.

S 160.10 Robbery in the second degree.

A person is guilty of robbery in the second degree when he forcibly

steals property and when:

1. He is aided by another person actually present; or

2. In the course of the commission of the crime or of immediate flight

therefrom, he or another participant in the crime:

(a) Causes physical injury to any person who is not a participant in

the crime; or

(b) Displays what appears to be a pistol, revolver, rifle, shotgun,

machine gun or other firearm; or

3. The property consists of a motor vehicle, as defined in section one

hundred twenty-five of the vehicle and traffic law.

Robbery in the second degree is a class C felony.

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Originally posted by Howie429
Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by Howie429
Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by Zanej Difference is one was considered a violent crime and other just fraud. They both were Federal crimes but when you hold someone at gun point or pretend gun point punishment is going to be more. But I don't agree 15 yrs that's harsh

Edit: he will be paroled with good behavior after 2-3 yrs most likely

They both used a finger for their crimes. The difference was one was white and rich the other was black and poor and even turned himself in the next day because he felt bad. The white finger had been doing it forever stealing from thousands of people for 3 BILLION DOLLARS!. The black finger got $100 DOLLARS so he can stay in detox! Fuck out of here with bullshit justifications!

its all how its written in the laws not on the color of their skin(only the crack/cocaine is justified being a race issue because crack is mainly located in poor areas of the country often with minorities while cocaine is a higher priced drugs that judges, polititions, lawyers use and get caught with)...he had his hand under his jacket making it look like there was a gun when he got the cash from a teller in the bank, she had no idea if there was a weapon or not and therefore force was used to commit the crime...the other just just commited fraud and never harmed anyone directly by making threats or appearing to have a weapon...pick up your states penal code book and read and it will desriptly explain every crime if your interested

the guy who commited fraud prob had a defense that cost him a few million and the other guy just had someone apointed to him who didnt give a shit about him...you get what you pay for...the guy pleaded guilty which never should have happened cause he should have took a plea deal to go to substance abuse program for a certain time period and then serve a shortened jail sentance

ive been to court plenty of times...if you can get a good defense lawyer then you can beat the case cause most cops are idiots and dont know how to properly follow procedures, fill out paper work and get lab and chemical results back in time for the trial and you can get it all dropped

C'mon howie the man stole $100 dollars and turned his self in and get sentenced to 15 years in jail. You ever been late on your mortgage and been threatened by the mortgage company so yeah he did threaten people and DIRECTLY STOLE their money and I am pretty sure most of them lost not only their hard earned money but their homes as well and Im quite sure he didnt turn his self in or apologize. And dont get it twisted I know the law and gun laws used while commiting a crime but c'mon man that shit was an abuse of power.

the guy who stole a billion must have had a defense team that cost him alot of cash...they got him a plea deal most likely for cooperating with the authorities with how things went down...the other guy prob couldnt afford his own lawyer if he stole $100 and got someone publicly provided to him who didnt really care about his client and didnt get him a plea deal since he pleaded guilty...its more of a rich/poor thing than a white/black issue

That about sums it up. The fiend was gonna get his regardless for intent. Young boys in the area I grew up in did the same and got 20 minimum for only $40. Didnt help that they killed the man, either. But premeditated was one of the charges. But 3 billion? Shit, he could've paid a lot of people off with just some of that. Zane, not everything in your head needs to be expressed. Filter first.

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No need to filter if E-thugs would know what they were talkig about instead of thinking the world is bringing them down it would be a better place.

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Originally posted by Zanej No need to filter if E-thugs would know what they were talkig about instead of thinking the world is bringing them down it would be a better place.

So you would say the judicial system that let a man be killed with no evidence and let a guilty woman off the hook murdering her own child is just?

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Originally posted by Howie429
Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by Howie429
Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by Zanej Difference is one was considered a violent crime and other just fraud. They both were Federal crimes but when you hold someone at gun point or pretend gun point punishment is going to be more. But I don't agree 15 yrs that's harsh

Edit: he will be paroled with good behavior after 2-3 yrs most likely

They both used a finger for their crimes. The difference was one was white and rich the other was black and poor and even turned himself in the next day because he felt bad. The white finger had been doing it forever stealing from thousands of people for 3 BILLION DOLLARS!. The black finger got $100 DOLLARS so he can stay in detox! Fuck out of here with bullshit justifications!

its all how its written in the laws not on the color of their skin(only the crack/cocaine is justified being a race issue because crack is mainly located in poor areas of the country often with minorities while cocaine is a higher priced drugs that judges, polititions, lawyers use and get caught with)...he had his hand under his jacket making it look like there was a gun when he got the cash from a teller in the bank, she had no idea if there was a weapon or not and therefore force was used to commit the crime...the other just just commited fraud and never harmed anyone directly by making threats or appearing to have a weapon...pick up your states penal code book and read and it will desriptly explain every crime if your interested

the guy who commited fraud prob had a defense that cost him a few million and the other guy just had someone apointed to him who didnt give a shit about him...you get what you pay for...the guy pleaded guilty which never should have happened cause he should have took a plea deal to go to substance abuse program for a certain time period and then serve a shortened jail sentance

ive been to court plenty of times...if you can get a good defense lawyer then you can beat the case cause most cops are idiots and dont know how to properly follow procedures, fill out paper work and get lab and chemical results back in time for the trial and you can get it all dropped

C'mon howie the man stole $100 dollars and turned his self in and get sentenced to 15 years in jail. You ever been late on your mortgage and been threatened by the mortgage company so yeah he did threaten people and DIRECTLY STOLE their money and I am pretty sure most of them lost not only their hard earned money but their homes as well and Im quite sure he didnt turn his self in or apologize. And dont get it twisted I know the law and gun laws used while commiting a crime but c'mon man that shit was an abuse of power.

the guy who stole a billion must have had a defense team that cost him alot of cash...they got him a plea deal most likely for cooperating with the authorities with how things went down...the other guy prob couldnt afford his own lawyer if he stole $100 and got someone publicly provided to him who didnt really care about his client and didnt get him a plea deal since he pleaded guilty...its more of a rich/poor thing than a white/black issue

On second thought, O.J's the only person that I can recall going back to court after being found innocent, and he had the best lawyer money could afford. Go figure.

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Originally posted by Zanej No need to filter if E-thugs would know what they were talkig about instead of thinking the world is bringing them down it would be a better place.

First off Grand Imperial Wizard Im in no way an Ethug And no body is bringing me down an I never claimed they were but if you feel we live in a just society then your a bigger racist then we already know you are! Dont your frustrations of not being able to play the game anymore on everybody else in the forum.

You always have some undercover racist shit to say David Duke but its all good keep exposing yourself

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Originally posted by Slickster
Originally posted by Howie429
Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by Howie429
Originally posted by wormdogg10
Originally posted by Zanej Difference is one was considered a violent crime and other just fraud. They both were Federal crimes but when you hold someone at gun point or pretend gun point punishment is going to be more. But I don't agree 15 yrs that's harsh

Edit: he will be paroled with good behavior after 2-3 yrs most likely

They both used a finger for their crimes. The difference was one was white and rich the other was black and poor and even turned himself in the next day because he felt bad. The white finger had been doing it forever stealing from thousands of people for 3 BILLION DOLLARS!. The black finger got $100 DOLLARS so he can stay in detox! Fuck out of here with bullshit justifications!

its all how its written in the laws not on the color of their skin(only the crack/cocaine is justified being a race issue because crack is mainly located in poor areas of the country often with minorities while cocaine is a higher priced drugs that judges, polititions, lawyers use and get caught with)...he had his hand under his jacket making it look like there was a gun when he got the cash from a teller in the bank, she had no idea if there was a weapon or not and therefore force was used to commit the crime...the other just just commited fraud and never harmed anyone directly by making threats or appearing to have a weapon...pick up your states penal code book and read and it will desriptly explain every crime if your interested

the guy who commited fraud prob had a defense that cost him a few million and the other guy just had someone apointed to him who didnt give a shit about him...you get what you pay for...the guy pleaded guilty which never should have happened cause he should have took a plea deal to go to substance abuse program for a certain time period and then serve a shortened jail sentance

ive been to court plenty of times...if you can get a good defense lawyer then you can beat the case cause most cops are idiots and dont know how to properly follow procedures, fill out paper work and get lab and chemical results back in time for the trial and you can get it all dropped

C'mon howie the man stole $100 dollars and turned his self in and get sentenced to 15 years in jail. You ever been late on your mortgage and been threatened by the mortgage company so yeah he did threaten people and DIRECTLY STOLE their money and I am pretty sure most of them lost not only their hard earned money but their homes as well and Im quite sure he didnt turn his self in or apologize. And dont get it twisted I know the law and gun laws used while commiting a crime but c'mon man that shit was an abuse of power.

the guy who stole a billion must have had a defense team that cost him alot of cash...they got him a plea deal most likely for cooperating with the authorities with how things went down...the other guy prob couldnt afford his own lawyer if he stole $100 and got someone publicly provided to him who didnt really care about his client and didnt get him a plea deal since he pleaded guilty...its more of a rich/poor thing than a white/black issue

On second thought, O.J's the only person that I can recall going back to court after being found innocent, and he had the best lawyer money could afford. Go figure.

he got found innocent because there was reasonable doubt that he didnt do it and thats all you need to beat a case so he didnt have to go to jail...and he was found guilty in civil court after he was sued by her family and had to pay $$$ because that system needs less evidence and just show that the family had loses due to OJ actions...alot easier to get $$$ in a civil suit than making someone go to jail if they cant prove that he did it

just like the woman who got millions from Mcdonalds cause she burnt herself with coffee...like what did she expect for it to be cold? but she got millions cause they caused her harm and didnt give her a warning it was hot

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Laws are old and out dated when it comes to fairness in race and wealth...they both go hand in hand because of who written them...they were smart and wrote them to attack a certain demographic rather than specific race and finacial status. Seriously they wouldn't make laws that an average american could juct pick apart, even though it is plain as day. If you don't believe that then saying cops racial profile too is out of the question.

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